1 00:00:32,069 --> 00:00:26,380 [Music] 2 00:00:32,079 --> 00:00:40,200 t-minus one minute 3 00:01:02,110 --> 00:00:48,340 [Music] 4 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:10,340 t-minus 30 seconds 5 00:01:10,350 --> 00:01:15,220 [Music] 6 00:01:29,610 --> 00:01:23,170 we are go for launch t-minus ten nine 7 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:32,040 [Music] 8 00:01:36,810 --> 00:01:34,570 welcome back to the NASA social for the 9 00:02:09,999 --> 00:01:36,820 crew dragon mission as we prepare to 10 00:02:10,009 --> 00:02:18,250 [Music] 11 00:02:25,250 --> 00:02:21,740 and welcome back ladies and gentlemen 12 00:02:27,530 --> 00:02:25,260 once again NASA social virtual edition 13 00:02:29,809 --> 00:02:27,540 we are here live at the Kennedy Space 14 00:02:32,119 --> 00:02:29,819 Center visitors complex bringing you 15 00:02:34,039 --> 00:02:32,129 everything that we can to show you what 16 00:02:36,979 --> 00:02:34,049 happens in the background as we prepare 17 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:36,989 to launch a rocket it's it's not rocket 18 00:02:40,729 --> 00:02:38,730 science but yes it is there's a lot 19 00:02:42,860 --> 00:02:40,739 going on a lot a lot of people involved 20 00:02:45,199 --> 00:02:42,870 and we're trying to bring to you as much 21 00:02:47,210 --> 00:02:45,209 as much as we can to help you understand 22 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:47,220 what goes on behind the scenes all right 23 00:02:51,170 --> 00:02:49,170 once again i'm yves lamothe I am the 24 00:02:53,930 --> 00:02:51,180 comm project manager for exploration 25 00:02:56,750 --> 00:02:53,940 ground systems and with me today is my 26 00:02:58,970 --> 00:02:56,760 man Phil how's it going Phil it's going 27 00:03:00,410 --> 00:02:58,980 great thanks for the intro II absolutely 28 00:03:02,149 --> 00:03:00,420 as he said my name is Philip Hargrove 29 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:02,159 with the launch services program I'm 30 00:03:06,770 --> 00:03:04,530 really excited to be here super exciting 31 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:06,780 times at KSC right now 32 00:03:10,339 --> 00:03:08,970 so yeah we're here to talk about yeah 33 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:10,349 everything leading up to the launch we 34 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:11,760 have some special guests there should be 35 00:03:16,670 --> 00:03:14,130 some good discussion so for everybody 36 00:03:18,559 --> 00:03:16,680 watching online please submit your 37 00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:18,569 questions submit your comments so we 38 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:20,400 really want you to be engaged since you 39 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:22,290 know you can't be here with us in person 40 00:03:25,550 --> 00:03:24,329 like we would normally do we really want 41 00:03:27,949 --> 00:03:25,560 you to be a part of the discussion so 42 00:03:30,530 --> 00:03:27,959 please submit your questions online so 43 00:03:32,690 --> 00:03:30,540 we can ask our special guests absolutely 44 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:32,700 this is all about educating you guys now 45 00:03:36,979 --> 00:03:34,560 if you look right behind us we have the 46 00:03:38,569 --> 00:03:36,989 beautiful Atlantis on the the shuttle 47 00:03:41,150 --> 00:03:38,579 has been a long time since it's flown 48 00:03:44,509 --> 00:03:41,160 but we get to sit here and enjoy it now 49 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:44,519 what the theme here is right the old 50 00:03:49,189 --> 00:03:46,769 right that's that's the previous program 51 00:03:52,759 --> 00:03:49,199 and now we're launching into a new era 52 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:52,769 where we have you know SpaceX with their 53 00:03:56,330 --> 00:03:54,480 rocket and they're launching astronauts 54 00:03:59,150 --> 00:03:56,340 on NASA's working on the same kind of a 55 00:04:01,460 --> 00:03:59,160 thing with the Space Launch System so 56 00:04:03,559 --> 00:04:01,470 we're looking forward to what NASA's 57 00:04:05,809 --> 00:04:03,569 future has to hold now with that guys I 58 00:04:07,789 --> 00:04:05,819 really want to get you guys to get to 59 00:04:09,740 --> 00:04:07,799 know our speakers and ask them as many 60 00:04:11,659 --> 00:04:09,750 questions as you can so with me the 61 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:11,669 first guest today is Steve pain Steve 62 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:13,049 how are you doing today I'm doing 63 00:04:17,479 --> 00:04:15,090 terrific I want to thank you so much for 64 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:17,489 joining us and we're looking forward to 65 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:19,409 a great conversation and being able to 66 00:04:23,570 --> 00:04:20,880 answer some of the questions that our 67 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:23,580 viewers are gonna ask us so to get us 68 00:04:27,110 --> 00:04:24,810 into that why don't you tell us a little 69 00:04:29,630 --> 00:04:27,120 bit about yourself and what you do and 70 00:04:31,250 --> 00:04:29,640 we'll get the questions going okay I'm 71 00:04:33,290 --> 00:04:31,260 currently with human Lander systems 72 00:04:35,330 --> 00:04:33,300 working on the next moon lander project 73 00:04:36,589 --> 00:04:35,340 but for the last six years I've been 74 00:04:39,260 --> 00:04:36,599 working with a Commercial Crew program 75 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:39,270 doing launch integration and launch 76 00:04:43,490 --> 00:04:41,370 integration is everything that needs to 77 00:04:45,290 --> 00:04:43,500 happen on the ground to make sure that 78 00:04:47,870 --> 00:04:45,300 the rocket can get off the pad and it 79 00:04:50,060 --> 00:04:47,880 involves everything from contingency 80 00:04:53,870 --> 00:04:50,070 planning to facilities launch teams 81 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:53,880 communications astronaut preparations a 82 00:04:58,700 --> 00:04:56,250 lot of that and it's a big bucket of 83 00:05:00,379 --> 00:04:58,710 worms that one needs to worry about but 84 00:05:01,730 --> 00:05:00,389 it's a great fun job to do so because 85 00:05:02,450 --> 00:05:01,740 you have to be involved in so many 86 00:05:04,850 --> 00:05:02,460 different things 87 00:05:06,980 --> 00:05:04,860 now the Commercial Crew like they've 88 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:06,990 been involved with locked rocket 89 00:05:11,420 --> 00:05:09,090 launches before the main difference here 90 00:05:14,149 --> 00:05:11,430 is we've got a couple astronauts onboard 91 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:14,159 right and that is a very big difference 92 00:05:17,690 --> 00:05:16,289 both of our providers have experience 93 00:05:19,399 --> 00:05:17,700 with launch vehicles and space 94 00:05:22,219 --> 00:05:19,409 operations in the past they're you know 95 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:22,229 they've been doing this for a while but 96 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:23,250 it's very different when you have 97 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:26,880 squishy things on the front end that get 98 00:05:32,029 --> 00:05:30,240 cold or get hot or get hungry or they 99 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:32,039 need air they need comfort they need 100 00:05:36,649 --> 00:05:34,560 communications if something goes wrong 101 00:05:39,050 --> 00:05:36,659 you just can't walk away like you can 102 00:05:40,730 --> 00:05:39,060 with an inert rocket you have to take 103 00:05:42,709 --> 00:05:40,740 care of the people so there's quite a 104 00:05:44,690 --> 00:05:42,719 bit more that goes into it and you have 105 00:05:47,029 --> 00:05:44,700 to worry about them in the weeks going 106 00:05:49,490 --> 00:05:47,039 up to launch for example quarantine like 107 00:05:51,890 --> 00:05:49,500 we're doing right now on launch day 108 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:51,900 there's a lot that goes on going uphill 109 00:05:55,190 --> 00:05:53,250 there's a lot that you have to worry 110 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:55,200 about and once you're there and then 111 00:05:59,269 --> 00:05:56,639 recovering them and bringing them back 112 00:06:01,399 --> 00:05:59,279 home all those pieces are new and 113 00:06:03,529 --> 00:06:01,409 different to the human launch side of 114 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:03,539 the house understand wow thank you for 115 00:06:06,830 --> 00:06:05,250 that for that introduction there 116 00:06:08,570 --> 00:06:06,840 uh Steven helping us understand how all 117 00:06:11,750 --> 00:06:08,580 of that works and the complexity that 118 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:11,760 goes into getting humans ready for space 119 00:06:16,219 --> 00:06:13,710 launch it's it's nothing like cargo but 120 00:06:17,540 --> 00:06:16,229 I can only imagine awesome and so now 121 00:06:20,060 --> 00:06:17,550 why don't we go ahead and get right into 122 00:06:22,219 --> 00:06:20,070 the questions and and see what the 123 00:06:23,899 --> 00:06:22,229 audience is curious about of course so 124 00:06:25,700 --> 00:06:23,909 following your theme of thinking about 125 00:06:28,249 --> 00:06:25,710 the past and moving into the future can 126 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:28,259 you tell us a little bit more about how 127 00:06:32,540 --> 00:06:31,199 your career at NASA started and I guess 128 00:06:34,190 --> 00:06:32,550 after that just giving us sort of a 129 00:06:35,180 --> 00:06:34,200 higher level overview of 130 00:06:37,130 --> 00:06:35,190 the other things that you've done at 131 00:06:38,510 --> 00:06:37,140 NASA maybe tell us what you're most 132 00:06:42,820 --> 00:06:38,520 looking forward to about this mission 133 00:06:46,610 --> 00:06:42,830 okay I can't hold the job apparently 134 00:06:48,590 --> 00:06:46,620 I've been here since 1990 working for a 135 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:48,600 contractor on payloads and then working 136 00:06:55,070 --> 00:06:51,360 for NASA and payload operations working 137 00:06:58,880 --> 00:06:55,080 for the crew office in the vehicle test 138 00:07:01,730 --> 00:06:58,890 integration team working for daily 139 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:01,740 operations for shuttle processing I got 140 00:07:05,900 --> 00:07:04,080 to do a stint working overseas in the 141 00:07:08,870 --> 00:07:05,910 transatlantic abort landing sites as a 142 00:07:11,020 --> 00:07:08,880 ground operations manager there came 143 00:07:13,910 --> 00:07:11,030 back did daily processing of shuttle 144 00:07:15,650 --> 00:07:13,920 became a tanking test director for 145 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:15,660 shuttle launches and then an assistant 146 00:07:19,220 --> 00:07:17,970 test directory finally a shuttle test 147 00:07:22,220 --> 00:07:19,230 director or I got to lead the launch 148 00:07:23,870 --> 00:07:22,230 team after the end of shuttle I had a 149 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:23,880 couple of year stint as chief of launch 150 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:26,610 complex operations at Kennedy and then I 151 00:07:29,780 --> 00:07:28,290 got a call from Commercial Crew they 152 00:07:31,850 --> 00:07:29,790 needed somebody with launch experience 153 00:07:33,950 --> 00:07:31,860 who had done the human side and knew the 154 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:33,960 ground operations part and it sounded 155 00:07:37,820 --> 00:07:36,240 too exciting to say no so that's where I 156 00:07:39,950 --> 00:07:37,830 went so I've been doing that for the 157 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:39,960 last few years and only recently the 158 00:07:42,890 --> 00:07:41,610 last couple of weeks actually every 159 00:07:44,900 --> 00:07:42,900 tired from NASA and I came back to 160 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:44,910 assist in a different capacity but 161 00:07:50,450 --> 00:07:47,730 working on another exciting project this 162 00:07:52,190 --> 00:07:50,460 particular mission is a culmination of 163 00:07:55,370 --> 00:07:52,200 all those years of hard work we put into 164 00:07:57,650 --> 00:07:55,380 this there are so many moving parts it's 165 00:07:59,090 --> 00:07:57,660 very hard to conceive from the outside 166 00:08:01,370 --> 00:07:59,100 most people just see the rocket they see 167 00:08:03,290 --> 00:08:01,380 it launchpad in the rocket and as far as 168 00:08:05,900 --> 00:08:03,300 they're concerned that's all that really 169 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:05,910 happens but they don't realize the years 170 00:08:10,010 --> 00:08:08,400 of work that go into designing that 171 00:08:13,130 --> 00:08:10,020 rocket and making sure the rocket is 172 00:08:15,380 --> 00:08:13,140 safe and testing it and modifying it and 173 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:15,390 assembling it and verifying everything 174 00:08:19,910 --> 00:08:18,240 is right and conducting all the 175 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:19,920 different levels of testing that we do 176 00:08:25,700 --> 00:08:22,650 is such as the ground abort test or the 177 00:08:29,140 --> 00:08:25,710 in-flight abort test or capsule recovery 178 00:08:31,670 --> 00:08:29,150 testing docking to the space station 179 00:08:32,290 --> 00:08:31,680 doing simulations until we're blue in 180 00:08:34,430 --> 00:08:32,300 the face 181 00:08:36,350 --> 00:08:34,440 going through all the contingency 182 00:08:38,150 --> 00:08:36,360 scenarios and developing all the 183 00:08:42,050 --> 00:08:38,160 infrastructure to support it there is a 184 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:42,060 lot of work involved so many of us have 185 00:08:46,580 --> 00:08:44,480 had a piece of that nobody can do it all 186 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:46,590 but many of us has had a piece of that 187 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:48,510 and this is where it's all finally 188 00:08:53,990 --> 00:08:50,730 coming together it's going to gel and 189 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:54,000 we're terribly terribly excited about 190 00:08:58,670 --> 00:08:56,370 this launch so so let me let me ask you 191 00:09:02,000 --> 00:08:58,680 you mentioned contingency planning so 192 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:02,010 let's say for example you know you just 193 00:09:07,810 --> 00:09:04,530 hit low Earth orbit and there's an issue 194 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:07,820 with the docking mechanism at the 195 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:10,650 International Space Station is there a 196 00:09:15,650 --> 00:09:12,930 protocol for that is are there steps to 197 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:15,660 cover things things like that you knock 198 00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:18,570 and the door won't open you know how to 199 00:09:23,270 --> 00:09:20,670 what extent or detail is that 200 00:09:26,110 --> 00:09:23,280 contingency planning done one of the 201 00:09:29,090 --> 00:09:26,120 things that NASA is famous for is 202 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:29,100 contingency planning backups and backups 203 00:09:32,810 --> 00:09:30,690 and backups and what happened redundancy 204 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:32,820 if that doesn't work then what and if 205 00:09:37,940 --> 00:09:35,910 that doesn't work then so as an agency 206 00:09:40,310 --> 00:09:37,950 NASA is terrific at going into all the 207 00:09:42,110 --> 00:09:40,320 deep contingency scenarios so for 208 00:09:44,450 --> 00:09:42,120 everything we can imagine along the way 209 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:44,460 somebody's come up with a hey this could 210 00:09:49,430 --> 00:09:47,250 possibly go wrong scenario and so a team 211 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:49,440 of people goes out and solves that 212 00:09:52,700 --> 00:09:51,330 problem well if this doesn't work we're 213 00:09:55,910 --> 00:09:52,710 gonna do this and if that doesn't work 214 00:09:57,500 --> 00:09:55,920 then we'll do Plan B or Plan C until we 215 00:09:58,970 --> 00:09:57,510 come to the point where I guess we have 216 00:10:01,250 --> 00:09:58,980 to come home because we can't do the 217 00:10:04,370 --> 00:10:01,260 mission but everything along the way 218 00:10:08,210 --> 00:10:04,380 from emergencies starting at the pad to 219 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:08,220 in-flight to docking problems too early 220 00:10:13,370 --> 00:10:10,890 undocking problems to re-entry problems 221 00:10:15,890 --> 00:10:13,380 all of those scenarios have been thought 222 00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:15,900 through and measures have been put in 223 00:10:20,510 --> 00:10:18,720 put in place to either prevent them from 224 00:10:21,950 --> 00:10:20,520 happening in the first place we try to 225 00:10:25,730 --> 00:10:21,960 correct it through engineering or 226 00:10:28,190 --> 00:10:25,740 procedures or if they do happen how to 227 00:10:30,350 --> 00:10:28,200 resolve them so there are lots of you 228 00:10:32,690 --> 00:10:30,360 know for example if we if we can't talk 229 00:10:33,830 --> 00:10:32,700 after several attempts and we change a 230 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:33,840 bunch of things and try out a slightly 231 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:36,210 different way each time if you can't if 232 00:10:40,460 --> 00:10:38,130 you can't doc then you will undock and 233 00:10:42,290 --> 00:10:40,470 come back and we'll try to get another 234 00:10:43,550 --> 00:10:42,300 time but all those procedures are built 235 00:10:46,940 --> 00:10:43,560 in so that we don't have to make them up 236 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:46,950 on the fly and the team just whips out 237 00:10:50,750 --> 00:10:48,930 the appropriate procedure runs through 238 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:50,760 it and it works pretty smoothly 239 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:52,770 understood thank you for that for that 240 00:10:56,510 --> 00:10:54,330 explanation what else we have from the 241 00:10:58,090 --> 00:10:56,520 from our viewers right now sure 242 00:11:00,980 --> 00:10:58,100 I really like the way that you described 243 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:00,990 sort of this effort because it made it 244 00:11:04,070 --> 00:11:02,610 really clear that there's a big team and 245 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:04,080 there's so many people who need to have 246 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:06,090 expertise well so many different things 247 00:11:09,860 --> 00:11:07,920 and you joked about you know not being 248 00:11:11,930 --> 00:11:09,870 able to keep a job to me that sounded 249 00:11:13,340 --> 00:11:11,940 like you know there was a lot of things 250 00:11:15,470 --> 00:11:13,350 that needed to be done and you were able 251 00:11:17,420 --> 00:11:15,480 to fill a lot of roles do you have 252 00:11:18,350 --> 00:11:17,430 advice for people who want to be 253 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:18,360 involved in the space industry 254 00:11:21,830 --> 00:11:20,130 particularly human spaceflight 255 00:11:24,980 --> 00:11:21,840 absolutely I kind of ended up out here 256 00:11:26,300 --> 00:11:24,990 by accident I I originally started out 257 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:26,310 in the Navy I studied engineering 258 00:11:30,020 --> 00:11:28,050 because I wanted to do something science 259 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:30,030 and I liked aviation in space I figured 260 00:11:34,850 --> 00:11:31,770 if I studied engineering I could work in 261 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:34,860 aviation in space at some point I flew 262 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:37,110 for the Navy for a while when I got out 263 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:40,170 I wanted to work space so I applied and 264 00:11:43,850 --> 00:11:41,850 because I had the engineering background 265 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:43,860 and I had some aviation background which 266 00:11:49,340 --> 00:11:47,130 is a similar field it was easy for me to 267 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:49,350 get in the door I started with a 268 00:11:52,150 --> 00:11:50,970 contractor because NASA wasn't hiring 269 00:11:54,470 --> 00:11:52,160 when I first got here 270 00:11:56,210 --> 00:11:54,480 then I transitioned when an opportunity 271 00:11:57,020 --> 00:11:56,220 became available and I've been doing 272 00:12:01,070 --> 00:11:57,030 that ever since 273 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:01,080 and I've changed positions based on what 274 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:03,690 the interesting thing is going on and 275 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:06,090 there was no particular path to get to 276 00:12:11,990 --> 00:12:09,510 where I ended up we look for people who 277 00:12:13,670 --> 00:12:12,000 have varied experience so if you come in 278 00:12:14,990 --> 00:12:13,680 the door in whatever capacity you get in 279 00:12:17,750 --> 00:12:15,000 the door you know get your foot in the 280 00:12:19,550 --> 00:12:17,760 door that's the first thing once you're 281 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:19,560 in the door before I lay that into 282 00:12:22,370 --> 00:12:20,880 something else get a little experience 283 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:22,380 in one area and then find another 284 00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:24,240 related area where you can get some more 285 00:12:29,090 --> 00:12:26,160 experience and after a while you know 286 00:12:30,590 --> 00:12:29,100 things about engineering you know things 287 00:12:32,810 --> 00:12:30,600 about operations you know things about 288 00:12:35,060 --> 00:12:32,820 working with crew you know things about 289 00:12:36,950 --> 00:12:35,070 health stabilization you know things 290 00:12:39,110 --> 00:12:36,960 about international relations with other 291 00:12:41,900 --> 00:12:39,120 partners and after a while you know a 292 00:12:44,980 --> 00:12:41,910 lot of things and it makes you a viable 293 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:44,990 candidate for many positions out there 294 00:12:48,590 --> 00:12:47,040 absolutely amazing I think we maybe have 295 00:12:51,620 --> 00:12:48,600 what time for one more question if time 296 00:12:53,780 --> 00:12:51,630 for Steve sure I'll try to come by in a 297 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:53,790 couple of them so some people are asking 298 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:55,770 about you know if you know contingency 299 00:12:58,610 --> 00:12:57,810 if things don't go well tomorrow I know 300 00:13:00,440 --> 00:12:58,620 you know the weather hasn't necessarily 301 00:13:02,660 --> 00:13:00,450 been great out here for the past few 302 00:13:05,420 --> 00:13:02,670 days what does the launch period look 303 00:13:07,460 --> 00:13:05,430 like for you know other attempts and in 304 00:13:09,710 --> 00:13:07,470 general what is the cadence supposed to 305 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:09,720 be like for future launches after this 306 00:13:13,499 --> 00:13:09,970 one 307 00:13:16,529 --> 00:13:13,509 okay tomorrow we're supposed to launch 308 00:13:17,819 --> 00:13:16,539 at about 4:30 3:00 Eastern Time and the 309 00:13:19,499 --> 00:13:17,829 weather is probably our biggest 310 00:13:20,669 --> 00:13:19,509 constraint at the moment constraint 311 00:13:23,039 --> 00:13:20,679 being the things that keep you from 312 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:23,049 launching just yesterday it was 313 00:13:27,119 --> 00:13:25,689 atrocious weather it poured all day long 314 00:13:28,319 --> 00:13:27,129 today it's getting a little better I 315 00:13:30,359 --> 00:13:28,329 understand tomorrow it's gonna be a 316 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:30,369 little better we're looking I believe at 317 00:13:35,819 --> 00:13:33,970 a 60% go which is really pretty good 318 00:13:38,849 --> 00:13:35,829 odds we have launched with as little as 319 00:13:40,169 --> 00:13:38,859 10 or 20 in previous in the shuttle 320 00:13:42,539 --> 00:13:40,179 program we launched with less than that 321 00:13:44,579 --> 00:13:42,549 it all depends on whether you find a 322 00:13:47,159 --> 00:13:44,589 hole in the weather that happens to 323 00:13:49,079 --> 00:13:47,169 coincide with your launch window if your 324 00:13:51,059 --> 00:13:49,089 launch window is at 4:33 and you have a 325 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:51,069 little bit of a gap between just before 326 00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:52,929 and just after where the sky clears up 327 00:13:57,569 --> 00:13:56,079 and everything lines up you can go even 328 00:14:01,259 --> 00:13:57,579 if it's raining to one side or the other 329 00:14:04,919 --> 00:14:01,269 you can go so 60% goes good odds and 330 00:14:07,289 --> 00:14:04,929 I'll take those any day it was the rest 331 00:14:08,669 --> 00:14:07,299 of your question late launch cadence so 332 00:14:09,539 --> 00:14:08,679 how many times are we gonna be launching 333 00:14:13,439 --> 00:14:09,549 you okay 334 00:14:15,689 --> 00:14:13,449 we're looking at keeping space station 335 00:14:18,359 --> 00:14:15,699 crew missions are about 180 days apart 336 00:14:21,059 --> 00:14:18,369 so in theory we'll have a mission going 337 00:14:25,049 --> 00:14:21,069 out there approximately every 180 days 338 00:14:26,909 --> 00:14:25,059 with crew to rotate crews out if we get 339 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:26,919 to a point where we have enough vehicles 340 00:14:31,109 --> 00:14:29,409 and enough capability we maybe choose to 341 00:14:34,799 --> 00:14:31,119 put more people up there and it will 342 00:14:37,019 --> 00:14:34,809 require more missions obviously if the 343 00:14:40,049 --> 00:14:37,029 providers once they're certified choose 344 00:14:42,210 --> 00:14:40,059 to take passengers up to do science on 345 00:14:45,119 --> 00:14:42,220 space station for example then they 346 00:14:47,429 --> 00:14:45,129 might go more often so that it's at 347 00:14:50,999 --> 00:14:47,439 least every six months but perhaps even 348 00:14:52,949 --> 00:14:51,009 more often our next mission after this 349 00:14:56,399 --> 00:14:52,959 one is going to be the crew one post 350 00:14:58,409 --> 00:14:56,409 post certification mission which means 351 00:14:59,639 --> 00:14:58,419 that after this demonstration mission if 352 00:15:01,139 --> 00:14:59,649 everything goes well and once we've 353 00:15:02,939 --> 00:15:01,149 resolved anything we find because you 354 00:15:05,699 --> 00:15:02,949 always find something once that's all 355 00:15:10,109 --> 00:15:05,709 resolved and we launched that first crew 356 00:15:12,449 --> 00:15:10,119 mission they are an FAA regulated 357 00:15:16,049 --> 00:15:12,459 commercial entity that can launch people 358 00:15:18,329 --> 00:15:16,059 into space so the cadence depends on how 359 00:15:20,460 --> 00:15:18,339 often they choose to launch and how 360 00:15:22,990 --> 00:15:20,470 often we need them we may need to swap 361 00:15:25,270 --> 00:15:23,000 them out sooner it depends 362 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:25,280 once we get our both of our commercial 363 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:26,930 partners online and we start going back 364 00:15:29,830 --> 00:15:28,690 and forth it'll work out nicely I think 365 00:15:31,090 --> 00:15:29,840 gotcha 366 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:31,100 and Steven what would you say is the 367 00:15:36,430 --> 00:15:34,130 most exciting part you know as we get 368 00:15:38,790 --> 00:15:36,440 ready to for the launch tomorrow is the 369 00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:38,800 best it's going to be the best day it's 370 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:43,430 from the time the crew wakes up and gets 371 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:45,110 their breakfast and does their press 372 00:15:50,140 --> 00:15:47,450 conference and all that they go suit up 373 00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:50,150 they put on their suits obviously the 374 00:15:53,350 --> 00:15:51,920 the the the tension Rises because 375 00:15:55,140 --> 00:15:53,360 everybody's starting to get excited 376 00:16:00,100 --> 00:15:55,150 we're waiting for everything to happen 377 00:16:02,980 --> 00:16:00,110 and really it hits us when we're about 378 00:16:06,780 --> 00:16:02,990 to walk out of crew quarters when the 379 00:16:10,180 --> 00:16:06,790 team is ready and they walk out of the 380 00:16:11,620 --> 00:16:10,190 historic door at crew quarters and wave 381 00:16:13,300 --> 00:16:11,630 at the crowds and get into their 382 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:13,310 transport vehicles to be taken to the 383 00:16:18,730 --> 00:16:16,610 pad that's really gonna signal the dawn 384 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:18,740 of a new era and space travel you know 385 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:21,530 speaking of those doors folks why don't 386 00:16:25,750 --> 00:16:23,930 we take a quick look at how it really 387 00:16:36,610 --> 00:16:25,760 happens and what it feels like walking 388 00:16:41,540 --> 00:16:39,410 that's Neil Armstrong Buzz Aldrin and 389 00:16:42,889 --> 00:16:41,550 then Ronnie Mike Collins now boarding 390 00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:42,899 the transfer van 391 00:16:49,710 --> 00:16:45,600 brother trip to the lunch Lasha here our 392 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:52,410 very historical walkway it's the same 393 00:17:08,790 --> 00:16:58,510 now the planning from their two quarters 394 00:17:13,940 --> 00:17:10,300 [Music] 395 00:17:16,340 --> 00:17:13,950 now if that's not exciting I don't know 396 00:17:18,410 --> 00:17:16,350 what is all right so hopefully you guys 397 00:17:19,699 --> 00:17:18,420 got a good feel for what it feels like 398 00:17:21,620 --> 00:17:19,709 when those astronauts walked through the 399 00:17:24,140 --> 00:17:21,630 door and they're about to get strapped 400 00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:24,150 into that capsule and take off the 401 00:17:26,420 --> 00:17:24,510 launch 402 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:26,430 all right so Steve thank you so much for 403 00:17:30,590 --> 00:17:28,770 everything that you provided us and now 404 00:17:33,620 --> 00:17:30,600 we have a second special guest with us 405 00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:33,630 we have the deputy program manager of 406 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:35,280 the Commercial Crew program Dana 407 00:17:42,410 --> 00:17:40,110 Hutchinson how you doing today Dana we 408 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:42,420 are so honored to have you and then of 409 00:17:45,620 --> 00:17:44,250 course the same thing guys on what we're 410 00:17:47,210 --> 00:17:45,630 gonna do is we're gonna get to know a 411 00:17:49,580 --> 00:17:47,220 little bit about Dana and it wouldn't 412 00:17:51,620 --> 00:17:49,590 we're gonna field your questions to ask 413 00:17:53,390 --> 00:17:51,630 her so you guys can get educated about 414 00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:53,400 what we have going on here so Dennis can 415 00:17:56,180 --> 00:17:54,510 you please tell us a little bit about 416 00:17:58,670 --> 00:17:56,190 yourself okay thanks 417 00:18:00,050 --> 00:17:58,680 I appreciate you having me here so my 418 00:18:02,420 --> 00:18:00,060 name is Dana Hutcherson deputy program 419 00:18:03,740 --> 00:18:02,430 manager what I've been doing for the 420 00:18:04,970 --> 00:18:03,750 last ten years is working with 421 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:04,980 Commercial Crew programs I've been 422 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:07,290 working with this fabulous team of 423 00:18:12,590 --> 00:18:09,930 engineers of technicians everyone even 424 00:18:15,710 --> 00:18:12,600 our commercial partner SpaceX to make 425 00:18:18,410 --> 00:18:15,720 sure that we can get these astronauts to 426 00:18:19,730 --> 00:18:18,420 launch from American soil on American 427 00:18:23,090 --> 00:18:19,740 Rockets back up to the International 428 00:18:25,130 --> 00:18:23,100 Space Station so what I do in a daily 429 00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:25,140 life is work with our program manager 430 00:18:29,540 --> 00:18:27,750 with Cathy leaders another deputy Steve 431 00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:29,550 stich and we kind of work together to 432 00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:30,870 make sure that we're covering the 433 00:18:35,030 --> 00:18:32,700 waterfront on managing the program 434 00:18:37,310 --> 00:18:35,040 activities on a daily basis more 435 00:18:41,300 --> 00:18:37,320 recently we've been dealing with the 436 00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:41,310 Kovan scenario so essential work and 437 00:18:44,150 --> 00:18:42,960 kind of focusing on making sure that 438 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:44,160 we're doing the right things and 439 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:47,130 protecting our people as well Wow now 440 00:18:52,970 --> 00:18:50,490 that that has to weigh heavy having to 441 00:18:55,310 --> 00:18:52,980 manage you know getting everything ready 442 00:18:58,100 --> 00:18:55,320 and dealing with the kovat situation at 443 00:19:00,260 --> 00:18:58,110 the same time but somehow someway we're 444 00:19:02,420 --> 00:19:00,270 NASA and we will prevail right and 445 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:02,430 that's that's what's important so I'm 446 00:19:07,250 --> 00:19:05,490 fantastic so it's great intro so now 447 00:19:09,260 --> 00:19:07,260 what we want to do is make sure everyone 448 00:19:10,460 --> 00:19:09,270 has an opportunity as to ask questions 449 00:19:12,260 --> 00:19:10,470 so we're gonna go right into the 450 00:19:13,850 --> 00:19:12,270 questions from our viewers and let's see 451 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:13,860 what they what they want to know of 452 00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:15,090 course you already have some great 453 00:19:19,130 --> 00:19:17,550 questions so can you give us a little 454 00:19:21,230 --> 00:19:19,140 bit of background about the Commercial 455 00:19:22,370 --> 00:19:21,240 Crew program and how we got started and 456 00:19:23,660 --> 00:19:22,380 maybe 457 00:19:24,890 --> 00:19:23,670 how it related to the end of the shuttle 458 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:24,900 program because he said you didn't 459 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:26,610 you're working for about ten years so 460 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:29,130 that kind of overlaps with you know the 461 00:19:32,810 --> 00:19:30,570 nine years since the last shuttle flight 462 00:19:34,910 --> 00:19:32,820 so maybe give people some perspective on 463 00:19:38,270 --> 00:19:34,920 and how things molded from the shuttle 464 00:19:40,430 --> 00:19:38,280 program into Commercial Crew right so as 465 00:19:42,170 --> 00:19:40,440 I said I worked I've been working with 466 00:19:44,060 --> 00:19:42,180 course worker program for almost ten 467 00:19:45,980 --> 00:19:44,070 years about nine years ish since we 468 00:19:49,220 --> 00:19:45,990 first started the program so I actually 469 00:19:51,530 --> 00:19:49,230 worked on endeavour before for the last 470 00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:51,540 Endeavour flight and then once we landed 471 00:19:54,980 --> 00:19:53,160 I was fully committed to working on 472 00:19:56,810 --> 00:19:54,990 Commercial Crew program so at the time 473 00:19:59,210 --> 00:19:56,820 we started off with the Space Act 474 00:20:01,340 --> 00:19:59,220 agreements with multiple partners and we 475 00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:01,350 started working with these with these 476 00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:03,840 designs of these that these providers 477 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:06,240 had and trying to work with them about 478 00:20:10,030 --> 00:20:07,890 historically what we've learned through 479 00:20:13,340 --> 00:20:10,040 human spaceflight and helping them to 480 00:20:15,170 --> 00:20:13,350 hone in on their designs and through the 481 00:20:17,690 --> 00:20:15,180 years working with these various 482 00:20:20,090 --> 00:20:17,700 providers we've actually got to the 483 00:20:23,210 --> 00:20:20,100 contract phase of it we're about five 484 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:23,220 five years ago and now we're here and 485 00:20:28,220 --> 00:20:25,530 this test and these test flights were 486 00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:28,230 still in the test flight stage of our 487 00:20:32,780 --> 00:20:30,960 program but we're at the the phase now 488 00:20:34,940 --> 00:20:32,790 where we're launching humans which is 489 00:20:35,930 --> 00:20:34,950 the most exciting part right we want to 490 00:20:38,150 --> 00:20:35,940 make sure that weird we've done 491 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:38,160 everything correctly so a lot for the 492 00:20:42,590 --> 00:20:39,570 last so many years of making sure that 493 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:42,600 we are checking all of the boxes 494 00:20:46,340 --> 00:20:44,310 correctly looking over everything and 495 00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:46,350 making sure that we're good to go as a 496 00:20:49,910 --> 00:20:48,390 whole community and we've been sitting 497 00:20:52,790 --> 00:20:49,920 through reviews in the last several 498 00:20:54,350 --> 00:20:52,800 weeks kovat spacing as well you know 499 00:20:56,060 --> 00:20:54,360 we've been sitting six feet apart but 500 00:20:58,850 --> 00:20:56,070 we've been sitting in these reviews with 501 00:21:01,370 --> 00:20:58,860 teams of people both on the SpaceX side 502 00:21:04,010 --> 00:21:01,380 and NASA and working through all of the 503 00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:04,020 have we've done the right thing as far 504 00:21:07,610 --> 00:21:05,760 as reviewing all of the data have we 505 00:21:10,670 --> 00:21:07,620 missed anything so we've been really 506 00:21:12,260 --> 00:21:10,680 making sure that we are looking at 507 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:12,270 everything and that the whole team is 508 00:21:16,250 --> 00:21:13,890 comfortable we've had this you know we 509 00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:16,260 do have our program is spread across the 510 00:21:21,020 --> 00:21:18,870 whole nation so we do have various 511 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:21,030 centers working together we've learned 512 00:21:26,180 --> 00:21:23,610 too while we always work virtually as a 513 00:21:28,730 --> 00:21:26,190 program anyway we've learned to deal 514 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:28,740 with the extra virtual aspect of the 515 00:21:32,550 --> 00:21:30,960 episode so do the astronauts have to be 516 00:21:38,140 --> 00:21:32,560 six feet apart inside the capsule 517 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:41,180 very very very good now you know from 518 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:44,130 your level being that you're the deputy 519 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:46,170 program manager this is going to be the 520 00:21:52,340 --> 00:21:50,010 first flight where is this headed do do 521 00:21:55,030 --> 00:21:52,350 we see is is this like when airports 522 00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:55,040 first began where you had you had a 523 00:21:58,970 --> 00:21:57,600 plane that flew off and it worked and 524 00:22:00,830 --> 00:21:58,980 then so next thing you know they're 525 00:22:03,230 --> 00:22:00,840 building a bunch of planes and then now 526 00:22:06,550 --> 00:22:03,240 we have an airport where do you see this 527 00:22:09,050 --> 00:22:06,560 going you know I think that's what we 528 00:22:11,870 --> 00:22:09,060 when we used to have the shuttle program 529 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:11,880 and it was a big NASA entity and now 530 00:22:15,140 --> 00:22:13,530 we're working with these private 531 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:15,150 companies and work in this commercial 532 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:17,010 aspect that we hope that this opens the 533 00:22:21,950 --> 00:22:19,050 door to being able to have more 534 00:22:23,540 --> 00:22:21,960 commercial space and it's it's already 535 00:22:26,030 --> 00:22:23,550 you know looking at opening the door for 536 00:22:28,730 --> 00:22:26,040 other types of commercial space travel 537 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:28,740 too so that was our hope in this program 538 00:22:32,990 --> 00:22:31,290 is to pull a team together of experts 539 00:22:35,210 --> 00:22:33,000 that have worked with human space flight 540 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:35,220 that have worked with the design of some 541 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:36,930 of these rockets that are already flying 542 00:22:41,090 --> 00:22:38,970 commercially and flying payloads 543 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:41,100 commercially so we're trying to work 544 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:42,930 with all these experts to try to make 545 00:22:46,940 --> 00:22:44,910 sure that you know let's open the door 546 00:22:49,130 --> 00:22:46,950 so that other private companies other 547 00:22:50,690 --> 00:22:49,140 commercial aspects can go out and do 548 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:50,700 this as well we hope that that's the 549 00:22:55,610 --> 00:22:53,490 vision is that to see one day everybody 550 00:23:00,620 --> 00:22:55,620 you could go up into space and foil no 551 00:23:02,510 --> 00:23:00,630 I'm okay I would totally take a trip up 552 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:02,520 to up to space I don't know that I would 553 00:23:06,140 --> 00:23:04,170 want to stay up there for six months but 554 00:23:09,170 --> 00:23:06,150 maybe a couple times around the earth 555 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:09,180 and and it just bring me back home what 556 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:11,250 else we have from our viewers there that 557 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:13,290 was a great question about you know sort 558 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:15,330 of the airport analogy especially since 559 00:23:18,260 --> 00:23:16,650 Kennedy Space Center you know we're the 560 00:23:20,030 --> 00:23:18,270 multi-user spaceport cuz we're already 561 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:20,040 seeing that happen in terms of 562 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:21,930 spacecraft from a lot of different 563 00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:23,370 places and you know a lot of different 564 00:23:27,710 --> 00:23:25,710 launch vehicle companies you know 565 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:27,720 growing up and then using some of these 566 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:29,370 pads that have been historically you 567 00:23:33,410 --> 00:23:31,770 know NASA and government only so it's 568 00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:33,420 awesome to see that translating into a 569 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:35,760 human spaceflight as well so so I 570 00:23:41,780 --> 00:23:39,090 appreciate that perspective so more dm2 571 00:23:43,310 --> 00:23:41,790 specific it seems like there was a lot 572 00:23:44,130 --> 00:23:43,320 of intentionality you know over the last 573 00:23:45,810 --> 00:23:44,140 ten years 574 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:45,820 you know the decisions that NASA was 575 00:23:49,890 --> 00:23:47,890 making working with these companies are 576 00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:49,900 you familiar with why these two 577 00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:52,000 astronauts were chosen for this mission 578 00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:53,710 and you know have they flown on previous 579 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:54,910 missions or is this gonna be their first 580 00:23:59,310 --> 00:23:56,770 time flying in space you know I'm not 581 00:24:01,590 --> 00:23:59,320 I'm familiar with the whole the details 582 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:01,600 of how they actually specifically chose 583 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:04,450 these two but they both have flown they 584 00:24:09,540 --> 00:24:06,730 have flown on the shuttle flights as 585 00:24:11,310 --> 00:24:09,550 well so actually I think is it Doug 586 00:24:14,370 --> 00:24:11,320 Hurley that flew on the last shuttle 587 00:24:17,150 --> 00:24:14,380 mission so you know they've had the 588 00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:17,160 experience of human space flight so they 589 00:24:22,020 --> 00:24:19,510 understand the aspects they're not new 590 00:24:25,140 --> 00:24:22,030 to human space flights and I think they 591 00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:25,150 and once again also they are a part of 592 00:24:29,790 --> 00:24:27,310 our team they have been a part of our 593 00:24:32,250 --> 00:24:29,800 team for years where they follow along 594 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:32,260 all of the development all the design 595 00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:34,210 reviews that we go through as a program 596 00:24:40,530 --> 00:24:36,820 with these with these vehicles so they 597 00:24:42,780 --> 00:24:40,540 are watching it along they are being 598 00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:42,790 able to go into the vehicle go out to 599 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:45,760 the actually in SpaceX Hathor and 600 00:24:49,470 --> 00:24:47,110 they're actually going out there and 601 00:24:52,770 --> 00:24:49,480 talking with the designers and working 602 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:52,780 with them to help them you know to hone 603 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:54,490 in on their design so that they can have 604 00:24:59,370 --> 00:24:56,650 it fit for the astronaut so they've been 605 00:25:02,160 --> 00:24:59,380 able to use their expertise and and help 606 00:25:03,630 --> 00:25:02,170 these aged these designs so you've put 607 00:25:06,060 --> 00:25:03,640 you know you and your team have put a 608 00:25:08,430 --> 00:25:06,070 lot of work into it all of it and it's 609 00:25:10,110 --> 00:25:08,440 all coming together tomorrow afternoon 610 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:10,120 as we get ready to launch these 611 00:25:14,430 --> 00:25:12,370 astronauts not these astronauts up into 612 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:14,440 space is there anything making you 613 00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:17,650 nervous you know I think all of us have 614 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:19,750 a little bit of that anxiety you know 615 00:25:24,810 --> 00:25:23,590 and until I think for me for a number of 616 00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:24,820 us we're gonna have a little bit of 617 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:27,760 anxiety until we get Bob and Doug safely 618 00:25:31,650 --> 00:25:30,010 on the ground again I think you know for 619 00:25:33,060 --> 00:25:31,660 it's it's gonna be a little bit of a 620 00:25:36,180 --> 00:25:33,070 longer mission so we're gonna make sure 621 00:25:37,950 --> 00:25:36,190 that we're focused on what's happening 622 00:25:40,770 --> 00:25:37,960 and focusing on all of the details 623 00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:40,780 throughout the whole mission so you know 624 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:43,990 we're all a little bit anxious excited 625 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:46,090 too I mean you know just talking with my 626 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:48,010 neighbors and my friends and my family 627 00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:50,650 and and they're kind of they're like oh 628 00:25:52,659 --> 00:25:52,360 we're gonna get to see this again you 629 00:25:56,109 --> 00:25:52,669 know 630 00:25:59,259 --> 00:25:56,119 the astronauts launching back from the 631 00:26:00,580 --> 00:25:59,269 US and in our local area so I think you 632 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:00,590 know it's just exciting to be able to 633 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:02,090 share that some of those moments and 634 00:26:07,869 --> 00:26:04,850 with the community and with with our 635 00:26:09,099 --> 00:26:07,879 folks so you talked about you know 636 00:26:10,930 --> 00:26:09,109 getting them into space and then also 637 00:26:13,210 --> 00:26:10,940 bringing them back okay and you also 638 00:26:14,859 --> 00:26:13,220 mentioned earlier about how you know the 639 00:26:16,810 --> 00:26:14,869 Commercial Crew program is you know 640 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:16,820 spread across different states you have 641 00:26:20,139 --> 00:26:19,129 people at Johnson and Houston and I'm 642 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:20,149 sure in other places 643 00:26:24,669 --> 00:26:22,369 can you talk about how that sort of 644 00:26:27,070 --> 00:26:24,679 functions how you all are involved from 645 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:27,080 launch through return and how it's not 646 00:26:32,529 --> 00:26:29,450 just it's not just the launch tomorrow 647 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:32,539 that you're involved in right so you 648 00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:33,769 know we're following at Mission Control 649 00:26:38,529 --> 00:26:35,809 out in Houston during the whole mission 650 00:26:40,810 --> 00:26:38,539 as well you know side by side with 651 00:26:44,619 --> 00:26:40,820 SpaceX is there watch watching the 652 00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:44,629 vehicle so we're just as any vehicle is 653 00:26:47,379 --> 00:26:45,710 docked to the International Space 654 00:26:49,330 --> 00:26:47,389 Station we're gonna be following along 655 00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:49,340 any of the things that go they're gonna 656 00:26:53,379 --> 00:26:51,289 go in and regularly check the vehicle 657 00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:53,389 make sure that things are you know 658 00:26:57,489 --> 00:26:55,279 functioning they're going to we're gonna 659 00:26:59,409 --> 00:26:57,499 be looking at weather patterns you know 660 00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:59,419 for landing we're gonna be there's a lot 661 00:27:02,739 --> 00:27:00,320 of things that we're going to be doing 662 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:02,749 not only to prepare for the next 663 00:27:07,629 --> 00:27:04,850 missions that are coming up but also 664 00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:07,639 following along the mission itself so 665 00:27:12,729 --> 00:27:09,440 and you mentioned you know we do have 666 00:27:14,289 --> 00:27:12,739 folks out it at Marshall specifically to 667 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:14,299 looking they'll be looking at the post 668 00:27:19,180 --> 00:27:17,210 flight data after launch will be the 669 00:27:20,769 --> 00:27:19,190 whole team are gonna you know following 670 00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:20,779 along after we launch it's not just 671 00:27:25,060 --> 00:27:22,399 launched and then docking and then hatch 672 00:27:27,369 --> 00:27:25,070 opening which is very exciting we're 673 00:27:29,229 --> 00:27:27,379 going to make sure that we follow along 674 00:27:31,479 --> 00:27:29,239 all of the post flight reports look for 675 00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:31,489 anything that has anything we can do 676 00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:33,679 better next time lessons learned and 677 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:35,809 yeah so we're gonna be trying to do that 678 00:27:40,479 --> 00:27:38,330 in phases and and as we're developing 679 00:27:43,149 --> 00:27:40,489 the next vehicles in line to they're in 680 00:27:45,369 --> 00:27:43,159 production as well now is it is it the 681 00:27:48,489 --> 00:27:45,379 intent of the Commercial Crew program to 682 00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:48,499 start inviting other commercial entities 683 00:27:54,489 --> 00:27:51,200 into into the game you know so right now 684 00:27:57,999 --> 00:27:54,499 you work with SpaceX and Boeing correct 685 00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:58,009 and is is are there any other contenders 686 00:28:06,370 --> 00:27:59,840 if you will that are that are looking to 687 00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:06,380 be part of this this era of space flight 688 00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:07,910 now we're working with Boeing and SpaceX 689 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:11,600 you know to transport our American 690 00:28:14,290 --> 00:28:13,130 astronauts back up to the International 691 00:28:16,450 --> 00:28:14,300 Space Station I think that's our 692 00:28:18,610 --> 00:28:16,460 pressing need right now is to make sure 693 00:28:20,140 --> 00:28:18,620 that we have that presence that US 694 00:28:22,510 --> 00:28:20,150 presence on the international space 695 00:28:24,730 --> 00:28:22,520 nation so we're working right now really 696 00:28:26,860 --> 00:28:24,740 closely with SpaceX and Boeing and 697 00:28:28,750 --> 00:28:26,870 trying to to keep that presence and as 698 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:28,760 Steve talked about a little bit early 699 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:30,290 about getting in that cadence 700 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:32,330 operational cadence of having those 701 00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:34,970 operational missions and be able to keep 702 00:28:40,540 --> 00:28:37,910 the ISS with that US presence that that 703 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:40,550 we want to make sure we keep very good 704 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:43,610 now so you are obviously very keen on on 705 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:46,130 being able to it's almost like starting 706 00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:47,930 the shuttle program all over again 707 00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:51,340 if you will what would you say to folks 708 00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:53,600 young folks there's some people in our 709 00:28:58,750 --> 00:28:55,910 now audience who are interested in being 710 00:28:59,860 --> 00:28:58,760 part of of NASA and what they do what 711 00:29:01,930 --> 00:28:59,870 would you tell them what would you say 712 00:29:05,770 --> 00:29:01,940 to our audience right now you know I 713 00:29:07,330 --> 00:29:05,780 always use one word persistence and I 714 00:29:09,670 --> 00:29:07,340 kind of go back to it's in my history 715 00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:09,680 and my mother's a teacher so I'm 716 00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:13,760 approved to say this but you know I love 717 00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:15,440 science and math and I love those 718 00:29:20,350 --> 00:29:17,120 subjects that get you into engineering 719 00:29:23,050 --> 00:29:20,360 school but you know I wasn't always the 720 00:29:26,110 --> 00:29:23,060 the top of the class every time you know 721 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:26,120 but I was super persistent and my 722 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:28,250 brother showed me how to launch Rutan 723 00:29:32,140 --> 00:29:30,050 model rockets when I was a kid you know 724 00:29:34,420 --> 00:29:32,150 I would kind of got interested in the 725 00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:34,430 space program I always thought he was 726 00:29:39,130 --> 00:29:36,470 gonna go to space program but you know I 727 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:39,140 I was persistent I went into engineering 728 00:29:42,490 --> 00:29:40,250 school and then I said you know what I 729 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:42,500 want to go and work at the Space Center 730 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:45,050 and it took a couple of calls you know 731 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:48,170 it callbacks and try to to get there but 732 00:29:52,210 --> 00:29:50,210 as Steve also mentioned once you get 733 00:29:54,910 --> 00:29:52,220 your foot in the door man I was I was 734 00:29:56,350 --> 00:29:54,920 excited about being able to work on the 735 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:56,360 space shuttle started working on the 736 00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:58,130 space shuttles and just doing everything 737 00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:01,520 I could to learn about this about this 738 00:30:05,530 --> 00:30:02,990 vehicle and then move into different 739 00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:05,540 areas I started off in engineering on 740 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:08,510 the working on tiles what you see on the 741 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:10,250 on the on the bottom of the Space 742 00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:12,050 Shuttle so I started off in tile 743 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:14,300 engineering and then I've moved into 744 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:16,970 operations and you know just like I said 745 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:19,010 being persistent and what I wanted to do 746 00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:19,650 and keep 747 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:22,320 having those goals you don't always have 748 00:30:26,210 --> 00:30:24,090 to be the the best in your class but 749 00:30:28,010 --> 00:30:26,220 just keep working for what you want it's 750 00:30:30,050 --> 00:30:28,020 amazing you know this is perfectly in 751 00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:30,060 line with some of what the other leaders 752 00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:32,880 that we've had here say that there is no 753 00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:35,310 straight line you know you go your path 754 00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:37,440 is your path and you'll find that like 755 00:30:42,830 --> 00:30:40,260 everybody has a story as to what they 756 00:30:44,660 --> 00:30:42,840 did and how long they did it for it who 757 00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:44,670 they work for and the things they got to 758 00:30:48,770 --> 00:30:46,710 experience to take them to where they 759 00:30:51,950 --> 00:30:48,780 are they are today so it's always fun 760 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:51,960 and interesting seeing how many of the 761 00:30:55,340 --> 00:30:53,730 different leaders across NASA have 762 00:30:57,620 --> 00:30:55,350 gotten to the place where they are and 763 00:30:59,930 --> 00:30:57,630 obviously doing some phenomenal things 764 00:31:01,640 --> 00:30:59,940 because without your leadership we 765 00:31:07,820 --> 00:31:01,650 couldn't be we wouldn't be able to do 766 00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:07,830 these things today coming from online 767 00:31:12,260 --> 00:31:09,510 what's your favorite part about working 768 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:12,270 in the Commercial Crew program you know 769 00:31:18,730 --> 00:31:16,410 I have to say it's our team we have an 770 00:31:22,370 --> 00:31:18,740 outstanding team being able to work with 771 00:31:23,570 --> 00:31:22,380 people from all over the agency being 772 00:31:26,210 --> 00:31:23,580 able to work with these commercial 773 00:31:29,330 --> 00:31:26,220 providers - it's very exciting to be 774 00:31:31,220 --> 00:31:29,340 able to learn from them when you know we 775 00:31:33,410 --> 00:31:31,230 as NASA we have this heritage we have 776 00:31:35,090 --> 00:31:33,420 this excitement of being able to work 777 00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:35,100 with the the shuttles and all of this 778 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:37,740 knowledge and expertise but also 779 00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,690 learning from some of the newer ideas 780 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:42,000 that these commercial providers have had 781 00:31:47,510 --> 00:31:43,530 that's also very exciting so I think 782 00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:47,520 it's our collective team of experts that 783 00:31:53,030 --> 00:31:49,710 we have teamed up with commercial 784 00:31:54,860 --> 00:31:53,040 partners it's I think it's it's 785 00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:54,870 refreshing getting back into this mode 786 00:31:59,300 --> 00:31:56,520 of being able to launch the humans I 787 00:32:01,790 --> 00:31:59,310 think we've been you know we've been in 788 00:32:04,610 --> 00:32:01,800 the mode of really working hard to try 789 00:32:06,590 --> 00:32:04,620 to certify these vehicles and to see the 790 00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:06,600 results and getting this launch off 791 00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:07,710 tomorrow I think it's going to be 792 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:09,720 exciting for a whole team and a good 793 00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:11,910 reward that we've been working for so 794 00:32:16,670 --> 00:32:14,400 long on very cool what do you think 795 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:16,680 you'll be tomorrow for the launch I am 796 00:32:21,050 --> 00:32:18,690 going to be in one of our support areas 797 00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:21,060 that we call hangar AE so I'm gonna be 798 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:23,430 over there watching the launch from 799 00:32:27,770 --> 00:32:25,770 there we and will probably step outside 800 00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:27,780 briefly so I can actually see it at the 801 00:32:32,899 --> 00:32:31,470 outside you know but I could be anywhere 802 00:32:35,389 --> 00:32:32,909 to be honest you know 803 00:32:37,969 --> 00:32:35,399 a lot of I would be happy being at home 804 00:32:40,419 --> 00:32:37,979 and being able to just say that I am a 805 00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:40,429 part of this mission you know so it's 806 00:32:47,299 --> 00:32:43,200 I'm excited that they're doing the 807 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:47,309 virtual you know launch viewing so that 808 00:32:50,570 --> 00:32:48,809 everybody I've been sending out to all 809 00:32:52,580 --> 00:32:50,580 my friends across the country hey watch 810 00:32:55,219 --> 00:32:52,590 this you know and it kind of gives them 811 00:32:56,719 --> 00:32:55,229 more of an opportunity for the folks to 812 00:32:58,759 --> 00:32:56,729 be able to watch it virtually that can't 813 00:33:00,769 --> 00:32:58,769 come down here and see the launch for 814 00:33:02,570 --> 00:33:00,779 themselves so I would definitely say 815 00:33:04,639 --> 00:33:02,580 regardless of where you are just have 816 00:33:06,529 --> 00:33:04,649 that bottle of champagne right because 817 00:33:07,879 --> 00:33:06,539 we have to think positively and know 818 00:33:10,029 --> 00:33:07,889 that we're gonna have a successful 819 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:10,039 launch tomorrow all that hard work 820 00:33:14,060 --> 00:33:12,570 across all the teams all the people you 821 00:33:16,129 --> 00:33:14,070 work with it definitely wasn't for 822 00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:16,139 nothing right and no matter what I'm 823 00:33:20,419 --> 00:33:18,320 NASA NASA is definitely good at 824 00:33:22,729 --> 00:33:20,429 persevering and in overcoming any 825 00:33:26,089 --> 00:33:22,739 challenges and making some amazing 826 00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:26,099 things happen you know with that Dana we 827 00:33:31,159 --> 00:33:28,289 want to thank you so much for coming out 828 00:33:35,330 --> 00:33:31,169 here and and giving us some insight into 829 00:33:37,159 --> 00:33:35,340 from a program level all the work and 830 00:33:39,049 --> 00:33:37,169 all the things and all the teams that it 831 00:33:41,089 --> 00:33:39,059 takes to really pull something like this 832 00:33:43,789 --> 00:33:41,099 together some people I think Steve 833 00:33:45,529 --> 00:33:43,799 mentioned it earlier that it's you know 834 00:33:48,409 --> 00:33:45,539 people a lot of people they just see the 835 00:33:50,899 --> 00:33:48,419 rocket light up and it launches but 836 00:33:52,999 --> 00:33:50,909 there is so much work years of work that 837 00:33:56,239 --> 00:33:53,009 goes behind pulling all of this together 838 00:33:58,519 --> 00:33:56,249 and again you know your leadership being 839 00:34:00,619 --> 00:33:58,529 persistent as you as you mentioned and 840 00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:00,629 all the hard work that you guys put in 841 00:34:07,310 --> 00:34:05,609 is definitely visible to everybody so 842 00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:07,320 thank you thank you so much for coming 843 00:34:11,210 --> 00:34:08,609 here and spending some time with us and 844 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:11,220 educating on all our viewers with with 845 00:34:15,649 --> 00:34:12,690 everything that we have going on and 846 00:34:18,019 --> 00:34:15,659 with that guys you know I just want to 847 00:34:20,899 --> 00:34:18,029 let you know it is about 433 right now 848 00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:20,909 so about 24 hours from now it will be 849 00:34:26,839 --> 00:34:24,000 launch time okay so please tune in 850 00:34:28,369 --> 00:34:26,849 tomorrow we still have a few more shows 851 00:34:30,619 --> 00:34:28,379 for you I'm starting at nine o'clock 852 00:34:32,899 --> 00:34:30,629 we'll we'll have some shows so please 853 00:34:35,629 --> 00:34:32,909 tune in once again live and check out 854 00:34:37,849 --> 00:34:35,639 check out what we have to show you keep 855 00:34:39,649 --> 00:34:37,859 your questions coming we want you guys 856 00:34:41,059 --> 00:34:39,659 to be all part of this that's why we're 857 00:34:42,769 --> 00:34:41,069 doing it virtual we want you to be able 858 00:34:44,930 --> 00:34:42,779 to ask questions and keep the questions 859 00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:44,940 coming talk to our leaders understand 860 00:34:47,970 --> 00:34:46,000 what it really takes 861 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:47,980 us to do everything that we do out here 862 00:34:52,770 --> 00:34:50,320 I'm Phil thank you for for riding with 863 00:34:56,970 --> 00:34:52,780 me Dana thank you again I wanted to say 864 00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:56,980 a huge thank to Steve and our comm team 865 00:35:01,980 --> 00:34:59,050 here at NASA who put all of this 866 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:01,990 together just so that you can see you 867 00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:04,210 can view you can hear you can ask and be 868 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:06,070 part of what we do here thank you for 869 00:35:08,850 --> 00:35:06,730 your support